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July 19, 2010
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turtlelady81:
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So I'd like to say officially, welcome to our guest, Dr. Shawn Finch #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Q1. What complications can occur if a dog gets fleas? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie A1 flea allergy dermatitis and tapeworms are the biggest secondary problems #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie A1 All flea bites are itchy, but if your dog is allergic, they are SUPER itchy and cause skin problems as well #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie A1 Dogs most commonly get cat fleas, haha I know -
Rat fleas (NOT the common cat flea) are the carriers of the Plague
#barkoutloud |
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FixItFish:
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No Kid my bed would have fleas? RT @Mod_Lorie: Q1. What complications can occur if a dog gets fleas? #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Q2. Audience: What kinds of problems have your dogs experienced from fleas? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@FixItFish wot? #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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can dogs become anemic from lots of flea bites? Q1 #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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RT @turtlelady81: Q2. Audience: What kinds of problems have your dogs experienced from fleas? #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@Finch93 - Is that one cause of hot spots? #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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I'm one of the lucky ones, I think...haven't seen fleas for years... #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@FixItFish Are you asking if fleas can get in your bedding, if your dog sleeps with you? #barkoutloud |
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FixItFish:
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Whoops :( RT @Finch93: @FixItFish wot? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@tacrabtree yes! Flea allergies can cause hot spots = moist dermatitis #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@gooddogz didn't you just have a problem with fleas? #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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RT @tacrabtree: @Finch93 - Is that one cause of hot spots? #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@Finch93 - Mine can get area bald from the irritation. I have never seen such tiny fleas as this year, tiny black suckers #barkoutloud |
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DaisyWunderDog:
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Jasper had fleas when he was brought to the shelter-lots of bald patches. #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@FixItFish ohno What #Oops? #FleaBite? #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Am constantly looking for that nasty flea poop....#barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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In my vet practice, I diagnose and treat flea allergies and tapeworms pretty much every day! #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Everybody here know how to find the "flea poop"? #barkoutloud |
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FixItFish:
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No Sorry, Just IF Boo ever had Fleas My Bed would've too RT @Mod_Lorie: @FixItFish Are you asking if fleas can get in your bedding? #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Was just thinking... I have my first foster dog coming this saturday....hmmm.... fleas? Better check. #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@tacrabtree I hear ya there #barkoutloud. seem to be under control at moment |
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tacrabtree:
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@Finch93 @Mod_Lorie - is this a particularly bad year for fleas? #barkoutloud |
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jawaj52:
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@Mod_Lorie No, please explain. #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93 @ComfyPaws I've seen anemia in young puppies also. But agree with you, probably related to size. #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@tacrabtree my mal/shep mix was all the time getting hot spots. am lucky with these three labs, no probs #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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flea poop is the bane of my existence #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@tacrabtree Yes! I bet it is! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@tacrabtree I don't know if this year is particularly bad for fleas #Docs? It is for heartworm here and they often parallel #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@tacrabtree Has been a bad year here. @Finch93? @PatrickMahaney? You too? #barkoutloud |
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DREAMRescue:
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The fleas here are extra tiny this year. Many of our fosters come in with terrible itchies but most resolve quickly #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@Mod_Lorie - yucky stuff gets under your fingernails when you scratch them = flea poop #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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#barkoutloud my dog suffered from flea allergies forever, but has calmed in the last few months. Weird it just disappeared |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@turtlelady81 remember back in the day when we had to flea bath, flea bomb, all those chemicals?#barkoutloud so much easier now |
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turtlelady81:
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My cat was terribly anemic from fleas back when we got him at two weeks old...#barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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we're having a bumper crop year of fleas, flies, spiders, etc Maybe due to rainfall? @Finch93 #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93 Can you describe "flea poop" and how to find it for those that don't know? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@jawaj52 If you see "dirt" on your pet, moisten it - if it is reddish...not dirt, flea poop (digested blood-ug) #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@lookwhatlabs Couldn't agree more! #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@DREAMRescue Good! #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@finch93 do you recommend on monthly flea product over another? #barkoutloud |
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jawaj52:
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@Finch93 Thank you, I will check him out. #barkoutloud |
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DREAMRescue:
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We've had adult dogs with flea anemia several times. #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@turtlelady81 Bridget is yellow, so would be able to see it. Not seeing anything #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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#barkoutloud I live in st aug florida - haven for fleas but shecky's fine now. Hated the itchy bald spots & nothing helped. |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@DREAMRescue now that would have to be a severe infestation #barkoutloud have seen in puppies |
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Finch93:
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@DREAMRescue how sad! It would take alot of fleas to cause anemia in an adult dog #SOGladYouAreThereForThem ? #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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We'll talk more about how to handle a flea problem in a moment :-) #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Q3. If a dog owner sees one or two fleas on the dog, how likely is it that these are the only ones present? #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@Finch93 - it helps if (in subdivisions) neighbors all spray for fleas & ticks at the same time so they dont migrate #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie A3 about 5% of fleas on a dog will be seen (sometimes NONE) ? so pretty Unlikely :D #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@Mod_Lorie #barkoutloud if there are 1 or 2 fleas, aren't there a million more per each one found? |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@turtlelady81 #barkoutloud my dog had experiences Flea Allergy Dermatis (FAD) and tapeworm from #Fleas |
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turtlelady81:
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@lookwhatlabs i sure do remember those days! Many, many years ago! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@sastephens I was thinking 20 :D but yeah, one or two fleas is just the tip of the iceburg! #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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LOL a million would be my guess! @sastephens #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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I think not having carpet contributes to way fewer fleas #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@turtlelady81 yup sitting on front porch with Sadie my hound mix, and a flea comb and squashing fleas LOL. #barkoutloud |
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BalancedDogs:
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Outdoor spray? With what? RT @tacrabtree it helps if neightbors all spray for fleas at the same time #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Q4 @Finch93 Okay.... so what do we do these days... if our dogs have fleas? #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93 I think a lot of people don't understand the tip of iceberg thing. Many think 1 or 2 fleas=no problem. Not true!! #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@tacrabtree that is a great idea and probly treat lawns at same time too. #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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A4 call your vet ? treat the dog, vacuum the home, especially where your dog hangs out, throw out the vacuum bag! #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@lookwhatlabs Nothing like the sound of popping a little flea body, yes? #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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when I spay outside I make sure to spray about 4 ft up on the house to create a barrier #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie A4 usually don't need to use toxic
'flea bombs" or the like because products kill the whole egg-larva-flea lifecycle #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@BalancedDogs - neighbor use pest ppl who come to spray - I use flea & tick spray from Home Depot - or wherever #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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I wonder what our folks' participating do for fleas? #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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also put a flea collar in the vac bag for any that have been sucked up #justincase #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@turtlelady81 #barkoutloud popping little body! Ick! |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@turtlelady81 my friend and I used to have contests to see who could get the most fleas!! #barkoutloud |
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dino_dogan:
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who won? lol #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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wash your sheets tooRT @Finch93: treat the dog, vacuum the home, especially where your dog hangs out ? throw out the vacuum bag! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@ComfyPaws never thought of that! Good idea! #FleaCollarInTheVacuumBag #THATSWhatTheyreGoodFor :D #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Any1 using diatomaceous earth for fleas? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@tacrabtree A4 yes! Wash the sheets, dog bed...anything soft that is washable #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@dancingdogblog hey just saw that you were here. I am using frontline now #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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RT @ComfyPaws: also put a flea collar in the vac bag for any that have been sucked up #justincase #barkoutloud *Great idea!* |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93 Some folks wanted to know if you have a favorite monthly flea product? #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@turtlelady81 have heard tell of it, but have never used it, is it not used in gardening as well? #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@turtlelady81 - to grow a bumper crop?? LOL Sorry #barkoutloud |
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carnellm:
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@turtlelady81 I try to give all my fleas to my wife. Keeps them off me! #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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this summer is the first I've used any flea products in years! #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Diatomaceous earth: http://bit.ly/cnrZMH #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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I think the feral cat population is causing a problem #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie I think all the prescription monthly products are very good - only OTC ones I trust are Frontline and Advantage #barkoutloud |
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FangShuiCanines:
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don't know if you covered this, but at what climates and conditions do fleas appear? #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Likely. That plus wildlife that comes into your yard. RT @ComfyPaws: I think the feral cat population is causing a problem #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@carnellm - that brings up a good point - fleas are attracted to only 1 of my sons - not the other & they both bathe! Why? #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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I prefer Frontline, too >^..^< #barkoutloud |
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BalancedDogs:
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Only Comfortis seems to be 100% effective lately. Hate giving systemic anything to a dog for a topical problem. #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93 I agree with you on the monthly flea products :-) #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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RT @ComfyPaws: RT @Finch93: @Mod_Lorie MY favorite monthly flea product is Frontline then Advantage then Vectra #Opinion #barkoutloud |
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nonochalant:
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Fronline and Frontline Plus are popular way to avoid fleas in Japan #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@Mod_Lorie LOL I have Ridgebacks hence no wildlife #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@FangShuiCanines *hi* Fleas like warm-n-humid but they can survive cold and dry, can even over-winter #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@Finch93 Does frontline last longer than they say it lasts? #barkoutloud |
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DaisyWunderDog:
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Yes! RT @ComfyPaws: good to see you @FangShuiCanines #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Anyone having any difficulties with Frontline Plus not being as effective as previously? Been some talk about resistance. #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@BalancedDogs Comfortis is good too. And works FAST #barkoutloud |
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carnellm:
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@turtlelady81 Of course UU fleas! We use Advantix? One of the two and I usually get it wrong. On both dogs and cats. #Bark Out Loud |
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ComfyPaws:
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do fleas overwinter in areas that freeze? @Finch93 #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@Mod_Lorie @Finch93 - my dad backpacked alot & loaded up on B1 to repel insects. Any truth in that? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 Frontline tapers in effectiveness, so doesn't last 30 days and quit - starts tapering at about 21 days... #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@Finch93 @fangshuicanines I live in Florida.. fleas love it here. #barkoutloud |
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MentorPitbulls:
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frontline Plus+ right? #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@Finch93 I keep applying nearly all winter, only quit if prolonged hard freeze #barkoutloud |
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dancingdogblog:
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RT @turtlelady81: Diatomaceous earth: http://bit.ly/cnrZMH // me too! #barkoutloud |
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carnellm:
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@tacrabtree I think it has to do with blood chemistry. Mosquitoes prefer me to my wife by a large percentage. #Bark Out Loud |
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tacrabtree:
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@ComfyPaws - you need a deep long freeze to help, #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@turtlelady81 I seem to get a good six weeks from the frontline #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@carnellm no Advantix on cats! I know you know, but I meant to say that tonight! #Dangerous #cattalk #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@carnellm Sounds right to me! #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Don't know. RT @tacrabtree: @Mod_Lorie @Finch93 - my dad backpacked alot & loaded up on B1 to repel insects. Any truth? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie yup fleas will over-winter where it freezes - will not be active, but will be back to hatch and bite in the spring :/ #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@Mod_Lorie I think so... they can over winter, that's what I heard.... #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@tacrabtree we're lucky to get a short shallow freeze in So CA #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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Q does the vitamin B really work to repel fleas/mosquitos #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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How about natural forms of flea control? #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@PatrickMahaney we have tons of fleas inland - but I never saw one in AZ #barkoutloud |
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carnellm:
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@Finch93 I know you aren't supposed to, but why? It must be the other one we use then. #barkoutloud #cattalk #fleatalk |
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tacrabtree:
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@ComfyPaws - I know - only in spots (born & raised in So CA) Miss it #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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What if you can't stand the idea of putting frontline on your dog? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@PatrickMahaney I don't know about B vitamins to repel fleas, do you think it helps Doc? #barkoutloud |
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dino_dogan:
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natural forms? I wanna hear about this... #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 How do you feel about other topicals? #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@ComfyPaws - never was a problem in SD #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@FangShuiCanines I think Vectra 3D is a good product #Safe #Effective #barkoutloud |
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FixItFish:
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as far as know, never seen anything like a flea on @BooFixItFish or 'buggy' #Bark Out Loud |
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sastephens:
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#barkoutloud @dino_dogan I've tried making sage tea for flea itchies.. helps some |
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tacrabtree:
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@Finch93 - do you encourage dipping besides shampooing? #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@tacrabtree must be due to totally diff climate huh? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@carnellm Advantix - the tick killer in it is a nervous system toxin for cats #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@Finch93 is that newer the Vectra? have not heard of that #barkoutloud |
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FangShuiCanines:
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doesn't seem as tho colorado has that many flea issues, but doggie daycare insists on having dogs treated. #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 You can go "oldschool" with flea prevention (I mean oldschool flea comb - n - picking not huge toxic flea bomb!) #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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would think ticks a bigger problem there @FangShuiCanines #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@ComfyPaws - Ild say so - will never get used to it here over 100 today #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@tacrabtree where are you now? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@tacrabtree I try to avoid dips and shampoos if possible as the topicals are good on their own #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@Finch93 i don`t think u can ever get ahead tho, just the adults, not eggs, with comb #barkoutloud |
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jawaj52:
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@FangShuiCanines Same here in Montana, not a lot of flea issues. #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@dino_dogan #barkoutloud - added note - sage tea to bathe him in for flea itchies, not to drink =P |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 yeah, I think the stuff out there now is safe and effective so I have not looked into other preventatives much! #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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Good to Know ---> RT @Finch93: I try to avoid dips and shampoos if possible as the topicals are good on their own #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@lookwhatlabs true! #barkoutloud |
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FangShuiCanines:
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@jawaj52 i wonder if it's the dry climate or what that prevents fleas from our states? #barkoutloud |
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dancingdogblog:
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@turtlelady81 Happy to send link later on that recipe I have used if interested #barkoutloud |
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carnellm:
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@Finch93 Thanks for the info. I knew you shouldn't, but never knew why. Wanna be safe to my cats! #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@turtlelady81 I used a citronella spray for those sick kittens - sprayed on a towel and wrapped for a few minutes #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Link to an article I wrote about natural flea control: http://ow.ly/2dJds #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@lookwhatlabs Sorry I am SLOW tonight! Vectra 3D is ticks too (and mosquitoes, lice, mites, sand flies), Vectra just fleas #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Q5. Can fleas be prevented? Is prevention preferable to treating once infested? #barkoutloud |
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jawaj52:
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@FangShuiCanines Good Ques. I just thought that it was winter being the best 10 months of the year. #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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Great pic on that page!! RT @Mod_Lorie: Link to an article I wrote about natural flea control: http://ow.ly/2dJds #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie A5 yes! Prevention is always preferable-no discomfort for your pet, no secondary diseases, not starting a step behind? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie A5 Cats (which are NOT small dogs, but still?) #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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does 'prevention' cause pesticide resisitance? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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A5 Cats may be more prone to flea allergies w intermittant flea exposure (Dr. Plant, veterinary dermatologist @Banfield 3/09) #barkoutloud |
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FangShuiCanines:
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@jawaj52 i thought it was winter, too, but then i see that fleas can over-winter. so now i'm not sure. but i've not seen fleas here #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Q6 @Finch93 Ticks! Ticks! Ticks! Let's talk ticks! #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@tacrabtree Hmmm....maybe feeding garlic? #barkoutloud |
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jawaj52:
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@FangShuiCanines Have to check stetson out, but does not seem like a problem here. Tonight I learned a good way to check #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Q7. Where can dogs pick up ticks? #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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ick ick ick do we have to?? RT @turtlelady81: Q6 @Finch93 Ticks! Ticks! Ticks! Let's talk ticks! #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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Did we talk yet about how to properly apply the topical preventatives? #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@turtlelady81 yup lest we forget about the little tick boogers #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 *whispering* no garlic! red blood cell membrane destroyer #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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thanks for mentioning that! @Finch93: @turtlelady81 *whispering* no garlic! red blood cell membrane destroyer #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@Finch93 *Whispered* Really? No garlic? #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@Finch93 Didn't know that about no garlic #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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Re: Q7: anywhere there is long grass!
#barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie A7 most commonly, tall grasses and brush, common in wooded areas
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie A7 different areas of the country have different NUMBERS and TYPES of ticks #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Even in moderation? No garlic? #barkoutloud |
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FangShuiCanines:
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@jawaj52 great that you learned how to check for fleas. i'll have to read the backstory or transcript to find out! on to ticks! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 *whispering* really! :) #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@Finch93 isn`t garlic a natural blood thinner? #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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right-garlic, like onions= hemolytic anemia. Do not want that! #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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No garlic.... new info for me....#barkoutloud When did that get figured out? |
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ComfyPaws:
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if you're in a tick area be sure to check for ticks on self as well #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@turtlelady81 Minimal amounts of garlic for flavoring may be OK, but always a gamble
#barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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Pet lovers (especially homemade treat recipe book writers) will argue with me till the cows come home #TheyreNotHomeYet #NoGarlic #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@Finch93 #barkoutloud I'm not familiar with B Vits deterring fleas yet they are typically safe and beneficial for variety of conditions. #vet |
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sastephens:
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@FangShuiCanines #barkoutloud thank you, still a puppy at 11 years old! |
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turtlelady81:
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@ComfyPaws Hate those ticks when I find them in my head. #barkoutloud |
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FangShuiCanines:
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@finch93 A7 long grass? any specific types of long grass? and only in certain locations? #barkoutloud |
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dino_dogan:
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lol...I got one of those eternal puppies ...was chasing after deer the other day..had to look him over #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@PatrickMahaney Immune system boosting, perhaps? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 Longterm vet knowledge but mild garlic use -> mild cell rupture, so lotsa people are ok with it #garlic #IStillSayNo #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@turtlelady81 I had a few deer ticks when visiting in KY and ended up with Lyme - not fun #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@PatrickMahaney - they are water soluble - so what your body can't use get flushed away - pun intended! #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@PatrickMahaney #barkoutloud good to know about B vitamins safe. What else is it good for? |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@turtlelady81
Garlic toxicity probably is dosage related. But how much is too
much? Who knows? Not worth the risk, IMO #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@Mod_Lorie Right, like grapes--how much is too much? Do you want to experiment?! I don't! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie I agree #IYellAtPetRecipeBooks #AndSometimesDogFoodBags :/ #Garlic @turtlelady81 #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Agree! RT @Keeping_Awake: @Mod_Lorie Right, like grapes--how much is too much? Do you want to experiment?! I don't! #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@tacrabtree B vitamins for immune system boosting in the form of nutritional yeast, for starters. #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@turtlelady81 Time for next ? #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@FangShuiCanines I don't know if it is specific grass that ticks like #Anyone? but different ticks are in different climates #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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I heard that ticks could actually jump? #barkoutloud |
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FixItFish:
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:( sorry RT @ComfyPaws: @turtlelady81 I had a few deer ticks when visiting in KY and ended up with Lyme - not fun #barkoutloud |
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dancingdogblog:
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RT @Finch93: @Mod_Lorie I agree #IYellAtPetRecipeBooks #AndSometimesDogFoodBags :/ #Garlic @turtlelady81// I yelled at Whole Foods! #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@Mod_Lorie #barkoutloud No grapes for dogs? |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@Keeping_Awake #barkoutloud make sure to apply topicals at least 48 hrs before or after (more ideally) bathing! #vet |
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Finch93:
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@ComfyPaws Poor thing! #IHATELymeDisease You ok now? #barkoutloud |
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FangShuiCanines:
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@sastephens i'm not mod_lorie, but the aspca puts out a list of poisonous foods and toxic plants for dogs. i don't have link #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@sastephens I can answer that. Nope. No grapes.... #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93 @FangShuiCanines Not aware that ticks prefer any different types of grasses. I think pretty much any grass/shrubbery. #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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no grapes - in some dogs they are toxic RT @sastephens: @Mod_Lorie #barkoutloud No grapes for dogs? |
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lookwhatlabs:
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you want to freak out my sister-in-law (from Canada) just tell her there is a tick on her leg. #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@FangShuiCanines For example we don't have deer ticks in Nebraska, so I rarely see lyme disease, tho it could happen #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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LOL I think it's crabs that jump - at least that's what it said on the restroom door at a truck stop@lookwhatlabs #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Q8. Why are ticks dangerous for dogs? #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Nope, grapes and raisins toxic for dogs. RT @sastephens: @Mod_Lorie #barkoutloud No grapes for dogs? |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@tacrabtree Right, no grapes, garlic, onions, etc. #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@turtlelady81 #barkoutloud Yes re immune boost, but not think that deter ectoparasites! #vet |
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ComfyPaws:
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@Finch93 oh thanks I'm ok it was years ago #barkoutloud |
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jawaj52:
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@Mod_Lorie So if we can get ticks, same for pets. right? #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@FangShuiCanines re-grapes I will find aspca list online for toxins for pets #barkoutloud Didn't know about grapes - I know NO chocolate! |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81
A8 usually the bite itself is not painful or irritating. it's the tick spit #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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Apply topical so slowly that they absorb. May need to apply in a few spots from shoulders to base of neck to achieve this #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 A8 can contract diseases such as lyme, ehrlichiosis, babesiosis. typically need 48 hrs contact to transmit disease #barkoutloud |
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lookwhatlabs:
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@Finch93 we get deer and well, which are the tiny Lyme disease causing ones? deer ticks, right? or wrong? #barkoutloud #MD |
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ComfyPaws:
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psst my dog eats grapes - picks em off the vine; so I draped with 'bird guard' mesh #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@jawaj52 Yep, absolutely. If you can get ticks, so can your pets. And vice versa! #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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want to stay btw shoulders and base of neck with topicals as dog can't lick it off there. #barkoutloud |
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FangShuiCanines:
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@sastephens here's list of poisonous foods/substances from aspca: http://bit.ly/W3AL4 #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 A8 large amounts tick saliva can transmit neurotoxin t-> tick paralysis, can be fatal if the ticks are not removed #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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on a large dog I apply topical btwn shoulders and another spot btwn hips #barkoutloud |
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nonochalant:
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Grapes and Raisin Toxicity in Dogs - McKnight-Tox Brief-Jan VT 04 (ASPCA's PDF) http://bit.ly/ce4Een #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@lookwhatlabs yes! Deer ticks are the ones that cause lyme disease, with us and our pets #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@FangShuiCanines here's list of poisonous foods/substances from aspca: http://bit.ly/W3AL4 #barkoutloud bookmarking |
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jawaj52:
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@Mod_Lorie That is why we stay out of tick infested areas. :-)) #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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RT @turtlelady81: So, if you remove tick w/in a few hours, no complications? Q8. Why are ticks dangerous for dogs? #barkoutloud |
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dancingdogblog:
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@lookwhatlabs Re garlic - had argued with two vets on toxicity risk, got basic eyeroll really makes u questions what u think u know #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@Finch93 May not see the Bullseye rash in our dogs with Lyme though! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 yes! If you get ticks off within 48 hours - no problem #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@sastephens #barkoutloud B complex (including B12) good for GI tract, nervous sys, immune, skin, etc |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Q9. Audience: Have your dogs experienced tick-related problems? #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@lookwhatlabs Yup! We have those nasty deer ticks, and deer flies... and well, the Deer to go with them....#barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@lookwhatlabs @Keeping_Awake True! @ComfyPaws #BullseyeRash may not see it - can test for exposure to lyme #barkoutloud |
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sastephens:
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@PatrickMahaney Excellent info thx #barkoutloud B complex (including B12) good for GI tract, nervous sys, immune, skin, etc |
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lookwhatlabs:
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a friend of mine had permanent neurologic changes from Lymes #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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#lookwhatlabs @dancingdogblog - better to be on the safe side #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@Mod_Lorie Not sure, we got a dog back from OK with a positive titer for erlichiosis. May have been vaccinated? #barkoutloud |
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equestrianridge:
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this summer is the first I've used any flea products in years! #barkoutloud (via @ComfyPaws)>me too xcept spoton stuff they're everywhere |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@Mod_Lorie not a common vacc here in New England, nor a common risk, so not sure #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Keeping_Awake No vaccine for ehrlichiosis! Possibly previous exposure without clinical signs? #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@ComfyPaws Geez! Yet you don't feed garlic? And you feed grapes? #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@equestrianridge my 4 yo male had his first flea prevention stuff about 3 wks ago #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@ComfyPaws #barkoutloud vet dermatologists I consult with recommend a strip of topical running caudal starting btw shoulder blades #vet |
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Keeping_Awake:
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My dog will always test positive for Lyme though as she was vaccinated. Can't that complicate diagnosis? #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@turtlelady81 my dogs do get a bit of garlic once in a while and they do sometimes get into the grapes #barkoutloud |
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FixItFish:
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;) HI @Keeping_Awake Non but thank you - That's what has been so odd with @BooFixItFish NO anything of anything-Tnk God Lucky? #Dogtalk |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@Mod_Lorie Uh Oh, then she must have been exposed yes. We got her back at 2 yrs, no symptoms, although worrisome at time #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@Finch93 or @Mod_Lorie Can you talk about the Lyme vac? #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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that's just how I apply it ... as you see others don't @turtlelady81 #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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RT @lookwhatlabs: a friend of mine had permanent neurologic changes from Lymes #barkoutloud *Lots of that in NH* |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Keeping_Awake We see lots of positive tests, esp for Lyme disease but also ehrlichiosis/anaplasmosis, without any clinical signs! #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@Mod_Lorie She has been fine now for 2 yrs, so hoping there is no subclinical infection. Erlichiosis is so nasty, hope she is fin! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 yes! I think it is a good vaccine for dogs at high risk...@Mod_Lorie Do you vaccinate there much? I don't #Nebraska #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@Mod_Lorie - is all that from blood work up? #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@Mod_Lorie #barkoutloud Fortunately not in my #Cardiff but have dx plenty of #Lyme and #Ehrhlichia in dogs when practicing in #MD, #WA, #DC |
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Keeping_Awake:
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In New England and even down as far as NJ, Lyme vacc very common due to high risk #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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Very concerned about the Lyme Vac. Why bother? Still have to use topical for other tick borne diseases. #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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I got my dog the Lyme vacc, but my mom has not done hers, though higher risk. Lyme vacc very confusing. #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie Hey I was trying to turf it to you! I do like #LymeVaccine but if dogs stay here (low risk) we do not vaccinate #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@Mod_Lorie I was thinking about the geographical locations of our participants... #barkoutloud NE diff. from midwest.... |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 yes! If protection breakthru is a risk, vaccinate, but you do need the tick vector to get lyme disease #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@ComfyPaws It is
labeled for one year, and as far as I know has been shown to be pretty effective #LymeVaccine #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@turtlelady81 Right, your geographical area is part of risk profile for Lyme. and most tick borne disease, actually. #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@Mod_Lorie - yhanks :) #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@Finch93 Okay, thanks! #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@Finch93 thanks good to know even tho I don't use it ... might someday #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Keeping_Awake @turtlelady81 true! #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@Finch93 Is that also called a snap test? (Tick vector) #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@tacrabtree After years seeing adverse reactions from reportedly "safe" topical meds I rec to use as infrequent as possible #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Keeping_Awake yes! #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@Finch93 But how would we know efficacy of vac if we're also using topical? #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@ComfyPaws Yeah, you never know. Who thought we'd have a dog with erlichiosis risk in New England? Rehome. #barkoutloud |
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dino_dogan:
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@PatrickMahaney I think thats great advice
#barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@PatrickMahaney - thanks - not needed very often now that I have houses behind me instead of a field! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@turtlelady81 You wouldn't - topical would be 1st line of defense and hopefully a lyme-infected tick would not reach pet #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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US Map of prevelance of tick borne diseases http://www.dogsandticks.com/NA-map-lyme-disease-dogs/index.html #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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@Keeping_Awake the only dog I've ever known w/erlichiosis came to US from France >^..^< #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@Finch93 - my hound will pick up fleas before the lab will - does the breed have anything to do with it? #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@PatrickMahaney Is your opinion the same with vet prescribed topicals as OTC topicals? OTC seem FAR more dangerous #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@dino_dogan #barkoutloud Thx. Products never seem as safe as claims. #vet |
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ComfyPaws:
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we'll probably end up seeing more tick borne diseases all over due to the mobility of the pet owning population #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@ComfyPaws We do see ehrlichiosis here in New England ;-( #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@tacrabtree not that I know of! #Breed #Fleas #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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We are the Lyme capital of the world. Yippee! #justabout #HaventCheckedMap #Dogtalk |
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FangShuiCanines:
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@Finch93 thanks for the map of prevelance of tick-borne diseases: http://bit.ly/9mKozm . really helpful #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@ComfyPaws Agreed! We never had to worry about several of the tick-borne disease til we got that one dog back from OK #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Likely. RT @ComfyPaws: we'll probably see more tick borne diseases all over due to the mobility of the pet owning population #barkoutloud |
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dino_dogan:
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RT @FangShuiCanines: @Finch93 thanks for the map of prevelance of tick-borne diseases: http://bit.ly/9mKozm . really helpful #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@ComfyPaws - I think with more moisture & more heat we will have a real flea/tick problem in the months ahead #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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The regional differences in tick borne disease risk point up why you HAVE to talk to your vet about this. Very regional! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@ComfyPaws I am afraid you are right :( #MaySoonSeeMoreTickBorneDiseases #PetOwnerMobility #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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Any time you are considering a 'non core' vacc, your vet is the place to turn for relevant info for your local area #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93
Have you seen many adverse reactions from Frontline Plus, Vectra,
Advantage, etc. #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie I have not seen many, but I know they are out there #AdverseReactions Most commonly I have seen skin irritation #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@pawcurious - great I'm in highest risk too - will be more vigulant - thanks #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Keeping_Awake true! :) #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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It's getting late! A great discussion we've had...#barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93 That has been my experience too. Most of the reactions I've seen have been from improper usage,(i.e. wrong product, etc.) #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@Keeping_Awake I think I'd have opted out of the Lyme vac. #barkoutloud |
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dancingdogblog:
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@Finch93 Thanks for great coverage on flea and tick issues, On garlic too! G'nite w/thx @turtlelady81 @Mod_Lorie @fangshuicanines #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie me too! What scares me about OTC is weight classes and dog products w kitties #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93 Thanks so much for being our guest tonight. You did a great job, as always!! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@dancingdogblog You are welcome! Fun to get to hang out with you :) #SorryAboutTheGarlicTangentMods #StayFocusedFinch #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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Yes, me too!! RT @Finch93: @Mod_Lorie me too! What scares me about OTC is weight classes and dog products w kitties #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@turtlelady81 We went for Lyme vacc as in high risk area and Jess has exposure to wooded areas and tall grass. She did well w/it! #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@Mod_Lorie @Finch93 @FangShuiCanines Too much fun! Thank you Dr. Shawn for your help tonight! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@Mod_Lorie Thanks! :) #barkoutloud |
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turtlelady81:
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@jawaj52 Go for it! #barkoutloud |
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Mod_Lorie:
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@Finch93 No, garlic info good to get out there. Not too many people aware of it :-) Plus grapes and raisins! #barkoutloud |
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Keeping_Awake:
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@turtlelady81 when you see deer in your front yard, Lyme vacc seems warranted. ;) #barkoutloud |
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tacrabtree:
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@Finch93 - thanks for all the great info #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@Finch93 Typical reaction I see is to topicals such as Hartz Biospot, Seargants.. #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@PatrickMahaney yeah, me too uhg! #HartzBiospot #Seargants #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@Keeping_Awake #barkoutloud I rarely see reactions with #vet presc products, such as Frontline, Advantage, or Revolution. |
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Mod_Lorie:
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That's been my experience 2. RT @PatrickMahaney: @Finch93 Typical reaction I see is to topicals such as Hartz Biospot, Seargants.. #barkoutloud |
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FangShuiCanines:
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those are sold in petstores, right? RT @Finch93 @PatrickMahaney yeah, me too uhg! #HartzBiospot #Seargants #barkoutloud |
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ComfyPaws:
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I'm surprised #HartzBiospot #Seargants are still on the market! #barkoutloud |
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Finch93:
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@FangShuiCanines *sigh* yeah Dunno why they're still out there with so many safer more effective options @ComfyPaws me too! #barkoutloud |
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PatrickMahaney:
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@FangShuiCanines Yes, I recommend avoiding most topical #flea #tick product sold at pet stores #vet #barkoutloud |